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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from tragicmishap]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Except that we are all moist robots and have no capacity to do anything other than what feels right.  So there's nothing upstairs to direct our &quot;training&quot; in any way other than the way we already want to do it anyway.  Everything that happens in our minds is also controlled by pleasure stimulus.  So we may want to train ourselves to read the newspaper by eating while doing it, but the only reason we want to read the newspaper at all is because it gives us pleasure in some other way.  

Don't get me wrong it's a great idea.  I'm interested to hear how you think this &quot;really&quot; works though, since we can't decide to train ourselves in anything because we have no free will.  So our &quot;decision&quot; to &quot;train&quot; ourselves by eating is really just a function of some other pleasure stimulus.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from lancecraft]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[A difference, we can 'choose' to starve; http://www.zhaxizhuoma.net/SEVEN_JEWELS/HOLY EVENTS/RAINBOW BODY/monkMummy.html]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from kaladorn]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[If you'd said sex, I might be with you. That rarely disappoints. I've probably missed school, work and social commitments at different times (hopefully nothing to critical was missed) on that account. But food? Not so much. 

I like food. I'm a foodie. I love to cook and am working on learning to bake as well. I like to drink with meals. But food to train me? Don't think so. 

Some days I wake up not hungry. If I get busy at work, I miss dinner. If I get home late or am drafted into something after dinner, I can miss dinner. Substitutes are usually crappy - both taste and health wise. If I make a roast pork with some rosemary roast potatos or something, that's a good meal. But that's a wee bit of work. Many times, the Weight Watcher''s TV dinner is easier and that wins. So the food reward isn't so great. I am a sucker for peanut butter, chocolate (ideally both at once), and dead cow in all its wonders. But would I do much for any of them? Nope. 

I've never (except by my own shopping decisions) had empty cupboards. I've never been barred from a snack like some carrots, a piece of toast, or an orange. I've never felt a famine like feeling. So I have no connection except intellectual between normal meals and survival. Certainly, if I don't eat at all until the evening, I may want a good meal, but it doesn't need to be gorging. But I also have an efficient metabolism.

I'll bet some part of Scott's results are heightened by being a vegetarian and active. Your body burns more energy just sitting still in that situation. And vegetarians often don't get the same level of fullness and repletion that ominvores do. So they are thinner. Hence probably more susceptible to hunger if they don't eat regularly. So to some extent, I suspect vegetarianism and an active lifestyle combine to make Scott more trainable with food. 

If you are less active and an ominvore who can skip a few meals without much adverse effect, food isn't the same draw, unless you are eating for some kind of psychological reason that bears investigation. 

Train me with nubile women of willing disposition, not a triple layer peanut butter chocolate kahlua cheesecake.
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Shyzaboy]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[tom steiner (http://dilbert.com/users/tom_steiner/) sez:
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If I offer attractive women biscuits for sex and they refuse, does this disprove the hypothesis or has the graph simply flattened out at that point?
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Tom, the solution is obvious - offer biscuits and gravy...

Biscuits, by themselves, are just too dry...
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from N1tr0]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[The movie theater idea doesn't work for me at all.  In fact, it's quite the opposite.  I would go to more movies if I could enjoy them at a lower cost.  The cost of snacks at theaters is ridiculous!  For a family of four, your putting out over $50 to see one flick.  We have gotten to the point where we will sneak in our own candy.  Sometimes more.  The popcorn is the hardest because of the smell. :-)]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from A JET Production]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I work with many fellow engineers and I always have candy and/or cookies at my desk.  I can get answers from them faster than anyone.  I'm not sure all humans respond to food but engineers are trained to eat just about anything they can get for free.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from sowelrt0]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[i am addicted to reading your blog.  i always read it while eating lunch at work.  hmmm...]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from webgrunt]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I caution AGAINST using treats as a reward for kids.  There's a chance they'll become food addicts.  I'm not saying it'll happen for sure, but it's more likely.  Playing games with them is a terrific reward.  Toys are good too.  If they become shopaholics, at least they'll stimulate the retail industry and help the economy.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from tom_steiner]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[If I offer attractive women biscuits for sex and they refuse, does this disprove the hypothesis or has the graph simply flattened out at that point?]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Tigershire]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Meetings.  You want staff to attend meetings, tell them there will be coffee, muffins, lunch, whatever the food required for the timing and lenght of the meeting.  GRIN]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from JBert]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Look up NLP and 'creating anchors'.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from BobNL]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Ik like the smell of a new book. No food reward necessary to read a 'physical' book.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from tom_steiner]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I, like you, am not by instinct a morning person.  I've not managed to train myself to be one.  I suspect the reason for this is that my biorhythms mean I'm seldom very hungry first thing in the morning, so the reward loses its lustre.  My appetite comes alive at about 9pm.  That's when I eat my evening meal.  I'll generally ingest most of my calories after dark.  And I am considered a real night owl by my family and friends.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from PRFen]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[So the problem then becomes turning the terrorists away from plastic keys, heaven, and virgins to something a bit more constructive? Reduce the amount of armies, guns, and bombsâ€¦  but boy thatâ€™s gonna take a lot of Ho Hos and Ding Dongs I tell ya!!]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from workerant]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Perhaps that's why we put up with the idiot bosses at work. If we didn't get paid, we couldn't eat. Of course, money, sex and power are also used as rewards too.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from ReekRend]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[In general I agree with the hypothesis only so far as food is in short supply or it's a treat you wouldn't normally get.  Most of the comments seem to be on the general reward principle but I think your point of food as a primal motivator is good given the right situations (although not all food situations).

Just for something you might find interesting, I am the exact reverse regarding food.  Being a logical nerd my whole life I hated food and considered it an annoying waste of time.  Later on, many other rewards as a result of food have given me positive association, such as socializing, dating, health, treating others, etc.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Locky]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Washing my face and hands before meals, my grandma was especially good with this one, probably because she was such a stickler to hygine and she was a great cook. Now, not only do i do this whenever I am about to eat but randomly throughout the day/night whenever i'm a bit stressed or upset and it is refreshing and oddly calming.

I always have a coffee first thing when i get to work, gets me out of bed and motivated.

I also read Dilbert while eating lunch or late breakfast, i guess i am using food and Dilbert as a reward or treat.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from tkjohns]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[To skanadron:  &quot;for reasons completely unrelated to this&quot;.  Oh, I don't think they're _completely_ unrelated...  I think the fact that your friend is a boorish neanderthal probably crept into other areas of their relationship.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from tkjohns]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I've read the newspaper at the breakfast table for as long as I can remember.  I was never sure whether I was eating while reading or reading while eating, until they stopped home delivery to my neighborhood several weeks ago.  For a few days I simply ate my breakfast, and my kids seemed happy to see my face across the table.   Now I grab a book.  I have no idea what this means.  

Does it help you to know that I'm eating a bowl of cereal right now?]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from MadHatta]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I would like to thank you for giving me something to read that has a good bit of intellectual stimulation with a healthy splash of humor.  Everyone around me is pretty much a moron and its nice to see theres other options besides dumbing myself down.  When im reading your blogs around other people and I laugh out loud people look at me and I think to myself, &quot;Yeah thats right im actually having a good time over here :)&quot;  But anyways, thanks for being smart and posting blogs! :D]]></description>
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