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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Sil_in_Corea]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I found that I love teaching and use my experience in mental health here in South Korea at a Community Welfare Center, ostensibly teaching conversational English to housewives, but also helping locate resources in domestic difficulties involving alcohol abuse.  It's satisfying to help people.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from fghdff]]></title>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from akkartik]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I work at Google. On the side, I've been thinking about why software gets crappy over time. I think the culprit is needless abstractions, which lead to a lack of ownership. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4361596. This project leads me in different directions as the fancy strikes me. I spent some time building a lisp interpreter in hopes that reducing code size might help. I've been trying to understand the GNOME codebase for the past month or so, trying to understand why things are so much more complex than they were ten years ago.

Everything seems to go bad over time. Restaurants start out good, then start to fade. It's probably some physical law. But I'm hoping to figure out how to stem the rot at least in software. That would help a lot, especially if software continues 'eating the world.']]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from dilbertSpawn]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I work on fuel injection systems in cars.  One of my responsibilities is too make sure the amount of fuel dispensed is accurately measured.  If I do this right, it allows people to effectively build, purchase and drive more efficient cars, using less fuel.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Therion]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Also, Drowlord, you have my condolences on not being able to understand how &quot;human ambition&quot; could be about anything other than making money.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Therion]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Drowlord, pick up a history book before calling someone &quot;crazy&quot;. The economic system you're referring to is mercantilism. A precursor to capitalism, but quite a different system. Otherwise historians wouldn't use different words. It wasn't until the Industrial Revolution of the 19th century that most of the population started to move away from subsistence farming. That is generally agreed to be the origin of capitalism as we know it.

&quot;Libertarianism&quot; is not a serious political philosophy, but a cult bent on the domination of the globe by the money-worshipping business classes. For a little more money and little more power, they're quite happy for the majority of people on Earth to starve. There's a practical example, which is their stance on global warming, and it is absolutely explicit in the tenets of the cult.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Drowlord]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@Therion, you have some weird ideas about capitalism and libertarianism.

The primary tenets of modern political libertarians is that government is too big and spends too much money and that personal freedom is very important.  While I can understand that not everybody agrees with the extremes of it, you sound outright hateful.

Your perspective on capitalism is crazy, too.  Most scholars agree that modern capitalism began in the medieval era.  The Amsterdam stock exchange started in 1602.  Most capitalistic ideas were relevent and practiced millenia before -- like trade, land, and assets -- even if they lacked modern formality.

In fact, I'd consider the entire &quot;exchange of goods and services&quot; system to be a default economic behavior for humankind.  I'm not at all convinced that &quot;something better&quot; can even exist, as human ambition is usually constrained by punishments and rewards.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Therion]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[You know, after reading your last post more closely, I think I'm wrong and you're right.

Libertarianism is only the second worst enemy. The main enemy is insecurity and hatred and egotism, and Republicans (or the Tories in England, who've been doing it for far longer) are extremely effective at tapping into this. 

The injustice of capitalism far outstrips the injustice of affirmative action, but due to clever brainwashing the white working classes never see it that way.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Therion]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[They're important in the sense that they're the ones who spread the ingenious libertarian propaganda. But without the ideology, they'd get nowhere.

I don't think there's any difference of substance here; it's merely about choice of words.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from whtllnew]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@Therion

You think the millions of people who own stock and businesses and don't want their value to go away aren't an important factor? You think the bad rep communism has is unimportant in peoples' acceptance of capitalism?

Conservatism refers to the entire spectrum of beliefs that are embraced in the modern conservative movement.  That movement is significantly stronger than libertarianism (look at the number of elected libertarians out there.  Now look at the number of elected Republicans), has embraced capitalism and is one of the main forces keeping capitalism going.  And btw, its what I was referring to when I mentioned the millions of other people who stick up for capitalism out of simple dislike for the folks who say it stinks.  Those poor people keep supporting conservatives and their capitalist ideology because the people who are against capitalism also try to force them to accept homosexual marriage, government funded abortions, losing their jobs because they 'aren't sensitive' to their black and female coworkers and a dozen other things they simply cannot accept.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Therion]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[The &quot;other factors&quot; you mentioned aren't important on the grand scale. Let's take Saudia Arabia. What ultimately is wrong with the country? It has its share of corrupt politicians. In the final analysis, though, the problem with Saudi Arabia is ideology. 

As for conservatism being the most important friend of capitalism. I don't know what you mean by &quot;conservatism&quot;. Resistance to change? I don't think there is any such ideology as resistance to change. A conservative living in poverty will not be resistant to changing his situation. In practice, conservatism refers to a mishmash of very specific, antiquated ideologies. The specific ideology relevant to capitalism is the ideology of the trickle down theory of wealth. In other words, libertarianism.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@Therion

[No, &quot;single-handed&quot; is accurate. People aren't so stupid that they're going to believe someone just because he's a politician or a guy in a think-tank. It's ideology that muddies the water and single-handedly prevents us from outgrowing capitalism. That ideology is libertarianism. ]

What do you think, Master Scott, of our friends' faith in people's intelligence?

I had no idea that libertarianism was as damn influential as all that.  And here I thought conservatism was capitalisms biggest, most important friend.

And I notice you ignored all the other factors I mentioned in capitalisms continued support.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@Whtllnew, Drowlord

No, &quot;single-handed&quot; is accurate. People aren't so stupid that they're going to believe someone just because he's a politician or a guy in a think-tank. It's ideology that muddies the water and single-handedly prevents us from outgrowing capitalism. That ideology is libertarianism. 

As for this stuff about capitalism being the only option due to &quot;self-interest&quot;. Nonsense. Capitalism didn't emerge until the 19th century in England.  There's plenty of alternatives to capitalism. Giving people the means to earn their own living is a perfectly viable alternative, if you think about it. We already have enough luxury goods now that the traditional arguments in favour of capitalism no longer hold water. We're at the point where bread-and-butter bare necessities (job, housing, social integration) are far more important than continued production of consumer goods.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Drowlord]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@Kuroneko, Being nice is fine and all, but the world needs people who do things, not people who do nothing in a pleasant manner.  If you want to improve the world, make things or repair things.  I'd rather know 1 grouchy effective person than 10 useless nice people.

I mean... I'd rather have a nice effective person on my fantasy friend list.  But if we're starting with a world filled with grouchy useless people, nice isn't the vector I hope for.  I don't think it's the quality we should recruit.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from helen.trim]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I read back my earlier comment and I'm a bit ashamed.  The post was about making the world better and I made it worse by being snippy.  Sorry.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from whtllnew]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@Therion
[Speaking of what's rewarding and what's good for humanity. I think Fox-News-watching, right-wing libertarians are the biggest force for evil on the planet right now. Singlehandedly they're preventing the world from moving beyond capitalism.]

@Drowlord
[@Therion, The thing preventing the world from moving past capitalism is the notion of self-interest. And the thing preventing anything OTHER than capitalism is that the majority of people don't do work without self-interest factored into it. It's cool that a teensy, tiny fraction of the world's population is willing to do altruistic work (primarily when their needs are addressed via some other channel), but you wouldn't have anything resembling an economy (capitalist or need based or whatever) without providing work incentives.]

I agree with Drowlord but wanted to expand a bit and urge Therion to keep these discussions serious and not allow our anger to take over and blow things out of proportion.  Capitalism was gaining ground on Communism years before Fox news came around.  And the term 'single handed' implies that no other factor comes close to protecting capitalism.  In other words, you're ignoring the billions the rich contribute to the protection of their fortunes (bribing politicians, funding think tanks, etc.), the millions of people who own stocks and businesses and don't want to see their value go away, the millions of other people who stick up for capitalism out of simple dislike for the folks who say it stinks, the bad rep communism has received and what Drowlord said.  All of those factors existed before Fox news, and Fox news has done little more than provide an outlet for some of those factors.

So don't get carried away.
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from mhlong47]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[I have worked in the IT arena since 1979, the Federal Govt, a bank, and a small mfg company before that, and I don't believe there is one thing I have done in any of them that might have had some impact on 'changing the world.' (maybe allowing some people to do other things, and maybe they changed the world, but I doubt it). Which is why I belong to a non-profit civic organization and go out and do volunteer fund raising and project work for them (we just constructed a shed for a senior center community garden).  And why I teach at a local college one night a week.

Regarding the graph, I have no problem with it, especially if it encourages me to look deeper into some of the items that seem to be in favor right now.  What I do have a problem with, is the number of people on here who criticize the graph but offer no viable (supportable) alternatives.  You want to help the world?  Put some significant time in, do diligent research, come up with a better graph, and then sit back and let the other critics have at it and trash it,  and try to feel... good about yourself.  Then get up and really go out and help the world.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from semerson]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Hey Scott...trying to raise awareness and a little $ for small community non-profits at http://projectboost.org.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from Alatoruk]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[not in my job, but I have just taken part in trials of a brain to computer interface creating writing.  it was so weird to move things on the screen just by thinking left or right or push.  The potential this has to improve the lives of people with locked in syndrome is staggering.

Unrelated, but the blog made me think of it, a collegue was telling me about an episode of 'undercover boss' hre in the UK.  This boss owned a chain of nightclubs and after seeing the work of paramedics in his club and the potential they had to save lives by interveening BEFORE someone got too drunk he now employs them in every one. again positive for the world]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from helen.trim]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[Phantom II - You missed the point.  Actually read one of the blobs and it gives accurate information about the potential benefits and side effects of each item.  

BTW, it's &quot;du jour&quot;]]></description>
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