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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from dilfalertist]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[First off, steroid use and steroid abuse are very different things, especially combined with high levels of stress on a regular basis.  Steroid abuse is far more dangerous than having two lattes a day.  Second, these athletes are on a lot more than just steroids.  Athletes who dope use a variety of substances, some for the boost and some to bring them back down, that when combined do a lot more damage to the human body and mind, fatally for some.  It is irresponsible to suggest loosening restrictions on their use to level the playing field, or that the way athletes use these drugs is similar to using coffee.  There's a reason the use of inhalers, or other steroids, is heavily monitored by a physician.  

Talent, skill and fitness achievable through training is what is supposed to distinguish athletes, not the quality or quantity of the performance enhancing substances they use.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@shagbark

OK.  Reviewed available info on the net regarding steroid use for myself.  Conclusion:  I grant you steroid use is not as harmful as I thought but its not as harmless as you think either.  They can increase mortality, though perhaps not as much as some perfectly legal things.

Even if they didnt, though, I would have trouble with the idea of legalizing them.  Somne of the 'less serious' side effects (aggression, shrunken testicles, etc.) are such that I wouldnt want to force an athlete to have to deal with the possibility of them just so I could see them perform a bit better.  And legalizing them (or not enforcing the laws against them) does force them to choose between that and losing to the folks who take that chance.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@Dingbat, whtllnew: I reviewed the medical literature on steroids in 2000, and there was no evidence that anabolic steroids increase the risk of suicide.  There was no evidence that anabolic steroids increase mortality in any way.  They can increase blood pressure, cause night sweats, and cause mood changes (usually for the better), but their side effects are not as great as those of coffee for comparable dosages (comparing, say, 200mg/week of testosterone propionate to 2 cups of coffee/day).  There are theoretical reasons for thinking they may increase the chances of prostate cancer, but experiments have not supported the theory (although men with prostate cancer should not use steroids).  There are a few anecdotes about patients dying while being given steroids, but in all cases they were dangerously ill before they were given steroids, were given very large doses, and were being given many other drugs simultaneously.  It is common for athletes to take uselessly-large doses of steroids (e.g., 3g/week when there is little evidence that anything over 800mg/week has any additional benefits), and yet the most-common negative outcome from this is gynecomastia.  Oral steroids, which generally have worse side effects due to their lower stability and lower bioavailability, can also cause liver damage, in the same way that many oral medications can.  Other than that, there was simply no evidence that anabolic steroids cause any long-term health problems.  This is remarkable when one considers that studying almost any supplement for any amount of time produces erroneous studies with false conclusions of danger (such as the famous but statistically incorrect &quot;vitamins kill&quot; studies of the past decade), and that there are many studies linking fatalities to common, uncontroversial medicine and supplements including aspirin, tylenol, and aspartame.

The exceptions that I am aware of are that oral steroids cause liver damage, that men with prostate cancer should not have any testosterone supplements because they oppose the effects of finasteride and dutasteride, that women should not use anabolic steroids, and that men under the age of 20 should never use any anabolic steroids because they can terminate bone growth.  Also, I'm not including DHT or androstenediol; they have more side effects and provide fewer benefits and should generally be avoided.

Furthermore, doctors routinely prescribe men with low testosterone natural testosterone supplements of 70g/week, even though natural testosterone has roughly 20 times the side-effect / therapeutic effect ratio of synthetics (varying by type of synthetic and the particular side-effect being considered).  The man who gets a 10g/day natural testosterone patch from his doctor, typically prescribed without any phase-in, phase-out, cycling, or anti-estrogens, will have significantly more side-effects (e.g., hair loss, negative mood change) than the athlete injecting 400g/week of synthetics, largely because natural testosterone has a half-life measured in hours while synthetics have a half-life generally closer to a week, and it is the breakdown products (particularly DHT), not the testosterone, that cause most negative side-effects.  The fact that doctors prescribe natural testosterone at all proves that they don't know what they're doing.  There is no legitimate therapeutic use for natural testosterone.

It's especially ridiculous for people to talk about the dubious health risks to athletes from steroids when athletes routinely use (and sometimes die from) /extremely/ dangerous drugs, including diuretics, insulin, mitochondrial uncouplers, EPO or blood doping, and growth hormone.  These drugs are all even more dangerous than alcohol, though of course none of them approach anywhere near the fatality rate of cigarettes.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[The thing that really pisses me off about the performance-enhancing drugs scandals is that apparently they have these drugs that let people in their thirties be as fit as people in their twenties, and instead of making sure that insurance will pay for everybody to get them, the government outlaws them!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I think behind the belief that hedge funds are cheating is the assumption that they beat the market to a statistically significant degree. I'm with Warren Buffett on this one - I don't think that's true: http://longbets.org/362/]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@language - gotta give you credit.  Fill your post with how atheists are immoral and support a cheating system, shaking your head at how terrible their world will be.....

.....and hope that nobody spots how at the end you say that you believe a doping cheater to be a hero.  Sounds like perhaps you share that lack of ethical responsibility you claim to look down on.....]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@lewscannon: The NFL doesn't test for steroids at all.  The players union won't allow it.  And I would be surprised if the number who *don't* juice is as high as 5% (excluding kickers).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[I work in the sports world, and unfortunately, Scott, your view of the conditions that create cheating are correct.  The problem is that there is a tipping point when the sense of athletes (or traders) is that &quot;everybody is doing it&quot; in our field, then there is a flood of cheating.  This is why harsh enforcement of rules (WADA, USADA) is critical in sport, and athletes and coaches pay a harsh penalty to make them think hard about cheating.  Is there really any commensurate sense of risk for traders?  Is the SEC at all serious?  We need to beef up enforcement on wall street, or the tipping point will destroy the credibility of the market. In sport, I worry about the high school kid who starts using steroids, and that's why we must be harsh with sport PED cheaters.  Who suffers the most if the stock market is seen as completely corrupt?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Tennis - no more than 70% of the Top 50.
Hedge funds - no less than 80% of all of them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[The bigger question is how do you feel about the cheating.  If I knew my hedge fund was cheating to get me higher returns and that if they ever got caught for their cheating, it would never have negative consquences for me (beyond changes in value of my investments), would I still go with them.  Or more to the point, would I purposely seek out a hedge fund that I figured was chating specifically to give me an advantage?  This is an extension of your theory.  It means if I can identify the cheaters, then I can cheat the market and it would be 1. easy, 2. have a good payoff and 3. be nearly impossible for me as a mere investor to suffer a legal consequence.   This becomes a morality question I suppose.  Its not that different from if you knew you could commit a crime that would benefit you greatly and you would never ever get caught, would you still do it?  Many people base their moral decisions on the excuse that they would surely get caught and they don't want to suffer the consquences.  But take getting caught out of the picture, what happens?   I might be willing to invest with cheaters if they got me a few extra points.  Problem with doing business with cheaters is the same problem with doing business with any other criminals.  They're just as likely to turn on you.    That's the only reason I probably wouldn't do that, because since I figure they're cheating the market, I know they aren't honest and I don't want to take the chance that they may cheat me and snag all my money.

I find that the whole idea of trying to control doping is stupid to get back to that point.  The point of anti-doping is to ensure a level playing field so that people are competing based on their skills and practice and whatever.   Take those rules out though, everyone will have to dope up to stay competative.  Then the playing field is level again because they're all doing it which means that any difference is based on the very skills that you're trying to bring out.  Only the non dopers would be at a disadvantage but is that really any worse than the fact that I'm not an Olympic Gymnast because I refuse to practice for 8 hours a day?  We all make our decisions and live with them.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[@kingfisher

the closer to monopoly a sports league becomes, the less valid the relationship becomes.

thus the relationship between the single league american sports, and any individual player is basically nonexistent.

if he doesnt want the relationship, because he wants to play by PED playing field, there is no other game in town for him to compete at.

this is why i think the relationship argument is flawed, or any appeals to the sports leagues authority.

the relationship loses even more when there is a player union backing &quot;labor&quot; performed by athletes. that is not a relationship, that is a crowded mess full of greedy rulemakingbreakers.]]></description>
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<title><![CDATA[Comment  from RavenBlack]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@language - why do you assume happy is talking from an atheist perspective? Atheism doesn't equate to a lack of ethics or morals, any more than catholicism equates to pedophilia. It's funny you mention &quot;the golden rule&quot; as if that's a Christian thing, because that concept dates back to about 500BC with Confucius; &quot;What you do not wish for yourself, do not do to others.&quot; (And calling it &quot;the golden rule&quot; postdates the alleged time of Jesus by about 1600 years.)

Notice how even the version of the Golden Rule *in the Bible* doesn't require any belief in a god.

What you're mistaking for atheism is most likely hedonistic utilitarianism.

(Note: I'm not saying happy *isn't* an atheist, but suggesting that happy's opinion *represents* atheists is like saying that catholic priest pedophiles represent all Christians.)]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Somewhat on topic.

I propose that they create 3 separate Olympics.

The first would be the 'pure' Olympics, that include only tests of human athletisism.  Track and Field events, swimming (maybe) and weightlifting, and bare-hand pugiliism (wrestling, judo).  Gymnastics would be converted to a battery of Parkour obstacle courses.  The list of approved equipment would be very short, and the only role of judges is to enforce the rules.

The second would be the human powered vehicle and team sport Olympics - this would be merged with the Paralympics.  Cyclimg, rowing, boxing, fencing, all team sports, etc.  In these events all forms limb replacement and augmenting technology is allowed (sans-external power sources) - but not drugs or artificial hormones.

The third would be the trans-human Olympics.  In these events competitors are encouraged to use whatever technology is available to boost the power of the human body past its limits.  These would the the gladiatorial games of science fiction.

You can guess which would be the most popular.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[There seems to be some controversy regarding what constitutes 'cheating'.  I think some discussion is in order.

To me, cheating means knowingly violating the rules of conduct (written and unwritten) that apply to a certain relationship.  In any relationship - whether it is a business, sport, marriage, friendship, community, or card game.  There are certain expectations that people have of each other.  Conforming to these expectations is generally a requirement for the relationship continuing.

Sometimes these rules are written and formal.  Breaking the law is clearly cheating in society.  Sometimes these rules are social conventions - while there is no written agreement saying that unmarried partners remain faithful, it is a general expectation.

Sometimes the unwritten convention contradicts the written rule.  When I play games with my in-laws, breaking the written rules is considered part of the game, and it is considered bad form to call someone out for it.

In any case, conformity to the rules is very important for the sustainability of a relationship, and when that relationshhip involves real sums of money - the written rules have to be enforced no matter the convention.  Otherwise someone is going to feel cheated.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[COMPLETELYOFF TOPIC: I recommend going here to see the eary results of shine the braille toad:

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<description><![CDATA[@dingbat

be careful your desire for equal opportunity does not turn into equal outcome.

i played pro sports, never doped, but if i had no moral objections to PED i would have. i would have sacrificed 10 years of golden years for greater ability in the now.

i see cheating as its own reward for those who choose that path. they harm themselves and get what is coming to them.

if you arent willing to pay the price, dont envy the prize.

your sons effort sounds great, but does he deserve to beat out millions of other aspiring athletes? if he does its most likely because he won the genetic lottery and put in the work.

imo, most anti PED ppl think they have some natural entitlement to beating enormous odds. they dont have a healthy respect for the odds, nor the fact they are competing for that opportunity against other sentient beings with their own hopes, dreams, prayers, and ingenuity.

sports give a huge amount of status, but its a game for young healthy ppl. education grants lifelong power. in other words, its not as great a reward as it appears.

my general attitude about cheaters was that i already knew i was competing with mutants. whats a little PED thrown in?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Happy wrote [People - let's be clear: There is no such thing as 'cheating'.

Some actions have negative consequences. But this is true whether they're man-made consequences (cheat on your taxes, get caught and go to jail), or natural consequences (tell a lie to a friend, get caught and lose the friendship).

When it comes to money and sports, I count on people bending or outright breaking the rules. Expecting anything else is naive. In baseball, there's a saying, &quot;If you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough.&quot;

Happy Soon-To-Be Turkey-Day Everybody :-) ]


and was at -6 (downvotes). i really have a hard time grasping atheists value system. it appears entirely arbitrary from where i stand. a relic of postpuritanical socialization. yall went to school with deists, in a culture of deists, who socialized you to the golden rule, and yall think atheism grants some benevolence or morality. equality or tolerance or honesty. its quite hilarious. now that deism is being pushed out of socialization its quite obvious what culture decline with follow.

this world is a time limited revolving door of progress. there isnt enough time for the bad guys to get caught and for bad movements to fold in on themselves due to actual natural consequences. for every wise old person who goes into the dirt, there is a sucker born every minute.

marrying atheism to ethics feels like the most futile exercise in judgmental masturbation. interesting to see how many downvotes a cheating advocate receives. i just end up shaking my head to see the general attitude of todays youth. darth vader is seen as stronger because good is weak. maybe after a lifetime they would change that attitude, but again, a sucker is born every minute, who then needs a lifetime to figure it out before his dirtnap.

armstrong is NOW a hero to me. before he was just 1 of many athletes. an athlete who competed in a sport/tech hybrid competition. its not NASCAR (who i have zero athletic respect for), its not chess, which is not even a sport, but it still is an arbitrary competition based on human power merged with bicycle tech.

give me the 100 meter dash any day. humans are landbased bipedal animals, which is why i really dont give a ratsass about michael phelps. obviously impressive, but c'mon, its 1 step away from handgliding.]]></description>
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