If you have a round peg that doesn’t fit in a square hole, do you blame the peg or the hole? You probably blame neither. We don’t assign blame to inanimate objects. But you might have some questions about the person who provided you with these mismatched items and set you up to fail.

If a lion and a zebra show up at the same watering hole, and the lion kills the zebra, whose fault is that? Maybe you say the lion is at fault for doing the killing. Maybe you say the zebra should have chosen a safer watering hole. But in the end, you probably conclude that both animals acted according to their natures, so no one is to blame. However, if this is your local zoo, you might have some questions about who put the lions with the zebras in the same habitat.

Now consider human males. No doubt you have noticed an alarming trend in the news. Powerful men have been behaving badly, e.g. tweeting, raping, cheating, and being offensive to just about everyone in the entire world. The current view of such things is that the men are to blame for their own bad behavior. That seems right. Obviously we shouldn’t blame the victims. I think we all agree on that point. Blame and shame are society’s tools for keeping things under control.

The part that interests me is that society is organized in such a way that the natural instincts of men are shameful and criminal while the natural instincts of women are mostly legal and acceptable. In other words, men are born as round pegs in a society full of square holes. Whose fault is that? Do you blame the baby who didn’t ask to be born male? Or do you blame the society that brought him into the world, all round-pegged and turgid, and said, “Here’s your square hole”?

The way society is organized at the moment, we have no choice but to blame men for bad behavior. If we allowed men to act like unrestrained horny animals, all hell would break loose. All I’m saying is that society has evolved to keep males in a state of continuous unfulfilled urges, more commonly known as unhappiness. No one planned it that way. Things just drifted in that direction.

Consider Hugh Hefner. He had every benefit of being a single man, and yet he decided he needed to try marriage. Marriage didn’t work out, so he tried the single life again. That didn’t work out, so he planned to get married again, although reportedly the wedding just got called off. For Hef, being single didn’t work, and getting married didn’t work, at least not in the long run. Society didn’t offer him a round hole for his round peg. All it offered were unlimited square holes.

To be fair, if a man meets and marries the right woman, and she fulfills his needs, he might have no desire to tweet his meat to strangers. Everyone is different.  But in general, society is organized as a virtual prison for men’s natural desires. I don’t have a solution in mind. It’s a zero sum game. If men get everything they want, women lose, and vice versa. And there’s no real middle ground because that would look like tweeting a picture of your junk with your underpants still on. Some things just don’t have a compromise solution.

Long term, I think science will come up with a drug that keeps men chemically castrated for as long as they are on it. It sounds bad, but I suspect that if a man loses his urge for sex, he also doesn’t miss it. Men and women would also need a second drug that increases oxytocin levels in couples who want to bond.  Copulation will become extinct. Men who want to reproduce will stop taking the castration drug for a week, fill a few jars with sperm for artificial insemination, and go back on the castration pill.

That might sound to you like a horrible world. But the oxytocin would make us a society of huggers, and no one would be treated as a sex object. You’d have no rape, fewer divorces, stronger friendships, and a lot of other advantages. I think that’s where we’re headed in a few generations.

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Jan 11, 2012
Sorry, Scott, but this post is, at best, a little bizarre. The lion kills the zebra to eat to survive. That's, er, a little different from your men-behaving-badly behaviors, in which you have conflated some offenses that hardly stand up to such conflation (tweeting one's junk and commiting rape are very different offenses). Were you playing DMD with people who like to take your words out of context? Even in context, I must confess that this post doesn't make sense to me (unless you're baiting people, in which case you've done a wonderful job).
Nov 22, 2011
Do you really believe that rape is a natural instinct for men? Really? Rape, you know, is not just a sexual act, it is a violent one. If a man rapes a woman he’s not just acting on a sexual urge, he’s committing violence against her. Yes, a man may have the natural desire to have sex with an attractive woman, but that is a far cry from attacking her, overpowering her, and forcing himself on her. Do you really think that is natural? Do you really think all men privately desire to rape?

And when you said that society has evolved to keep males in a state of continuous unfulfilled urges, all I have to say is OF COURSE IT HAS! For both men and women! That’s what makes us human: controlling our urges. If we didn’t, we’d be just like animals. That’s where your zebra and lion analogy goes awry. We don’t blame the lion, not just because it’s his nature, but because he doesn’t have the ability to rise above his nature. People do.
That’s why humans are held accountable for their actions, because they have the free will to choose to do the right thing even when they have the desire to do the wrong.

These actions you are describing are considered wrong not because society is unfair to men’s nature, but because society recognizes that men know better. Because they are not animals, so they are not ruled by instinct. These men DO have the ability to control their urges. Because they are human.

So what I’m saying is, rape IS deviant behavior. The sexual urge is not, necessarily. But the violent component definitely is.

Also, society is not being unfair to men by expecting them to curb their urges. Controlling our desires is what makes us more than animals.
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Nov 15, 2011
Women, Scott, have natural sexual urges as well. However I don't jump my husband or the closet male in the room when I get those urges. I was sad to hear about those poor rapists who were victims of society's shrewed and unnatural laws that criminalize their basic instincts though. Every now and again I forget that women are not human beings and are recepticals for sperm, but good thing I have ignorant and pointless blogs like this one to remind me. I'm sure that if the rapists just explained to their victims that they were !$%*! and needed to get off, they would be willing to spread their legs and assist in the process. Do you even understand that rape isn't about sex? It isn't about acheiving orgasm of relieving an !$%*!$%*! it's about control. Every man gets aroused but most of them do not become rapists. Ask any 15 year old boy it's called self control. And by the way it's a square peg in a round hole and lionesses do most of the hunting. Didn't you use to be in Mensa?
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Oct 18, 2011
An at bat for Scott Adams taken from:


Respectfully, I disagree. Take a quote from Adam's Blog:
"The current view of such things is that the men are to blame for their own bad behavior. That seems right."

He immediately understands and acknowledges that rape is a horrendous crime, the ultimate fault for which lies with the perpetrator. What, then, are we to do merely with that information? I believe the feminist movement can take a page from it's own book in understanding the context of Adam's views. To make sense of why we observe so few women in math and the hard sciences, we seldom try to explain these variations through differences in intelligence. To understand, diagnose, and fix the problem, we have to be aware of what societal structures might push boys towards math and women away from it (for example). I'm reminded of the AMA on pedophilia today as an illustrative example of how we can actually do the most good by acknowledging certain immoral urges people might have (be they against unwilling children or adults). IMHO, both Adam's and the poster of the AMA fully understand and, in fact, argue that rape of any variety is wrong. What, then, is so wrong with trying to understand it's underlying causes and eradicate them so that fewer people have those urges in the first place?
To your first point, I agree that the heart of the issue cannot and should not be whether rape is natural or not. It seems to exist elsewhere outside of humankind.

Kurt Kaletka on the online petition seems to miss this point by commenting that
"You know, beating people up is a natural instinct, too. And when someone near me gets on my nerves, I might want to beat that person up. And since I'm larger than most people, I could probably do it. But I hold back, despite what nature says. This is not just because I'm a nice person, though that's the main part (or so I like to think.) It's because this is called assault, and assault is not legal."

But this seems to me like exactly what Adam's is saying. To acknowledge that you have an urge towards violence, or that men in general have a tendency for rape (which statistically they do), or that pedophiles have a lust for children does not, by any token, exonerate any of these three groups for acting on that urge. What societal institutions might exacerbate the tendency to rape? What can we do to prevent it? These seem like far more helpful questions (questions that it seemed to me that Adam's was attempting, perhaps poorly, to answer). I think we need to extend to him some good old fashioned reddiquette:
DON'T: Downvote opinions just because you disagree with them. The down arrow is for comments that add nothing to the discussion.

I think Adams wants to contribute to the discussion. So do I. What can we do now?
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Jun 30, 2011
I can't believe that you would actually advocate this be done to half the human race:

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ /number10.gov.uk/news/latest-news/2009/09/treatment-of-alan-turing-was-appalling-pm-20571
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Jun 28, 2011
I am very proud to see that on this blog entry my comment was voted down as the third worst. Actually it should be the second worst, because I voted myself up about ten times (obviously I cannot keep up with the hysterical masses.)

Don't let them get to you, Scott.
Jun 26, 2011
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I remember when the NYTs ran an article about women & rape fantasies it causes a HUGE rukkus on net. People,and especially women have a hard time facing reality,which is weird because it is common for women to have such fantasies-so when they are screaming at anyone who's trying to examine this issue,they also know it's true-very strange.
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Jun 23, 2011
I liked Dilbert so much better when I had no idea what a Cro-Magnon was behind them.
You whine about your offensive comments being taken out of context and a loss in income. I have some advice for you: stop writing this blog and letting people hear and read what you really think. Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Just a few pearls of wisdom from the Great Rail Splitter.
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Jun 22, 2011
These rape apologists are conflating "natural" with "uncontrollable". !$%*!$%* is natural but people don't poop their pants every time they get the urge.

Jun 22, 2011
I do not understand your post. My hole is quite round. And all I want it to be is filled. Give me round pegs every day. Several of them. And lots of steak because pegging makes me hungry.

Now get back to the drawing board and churn out another comic strip, !$%*!$ *spanks*
Jun 22, 2011
Let me give you a little hint as to what Scott meant with his "LRC" comment.

If I say that people fantasize about eating, drinking, collecting coins, becoming famous, and eating cheese, I'm not saying that every person on earth fantasizes about all of those things. I'm saying that each of these fantasies exist in at least some portion of the people on earth. There are, no doubt, some men who fantasize about rape, just as there are some women who fantasize about doing really bad things to men who have offended them. That does not mean that all men fantasize about rape, nor all women fantasize about cutting off men's private parts. But some do.

Almost no one who is lucid enough to participate in this post would deny the obvious fact that some people do fantasize about bad things; however, it is very possible that some, and perhaps many, did miss seeing the point that it is some, not all, about which Scott wrote. Obviously, those who erupted in anger over Scott's "Pegs and Holes" post were unable to figure this out. Hence Scott's LRC comment.

I'm no defender of Scott's, usually. I think his opinions vary, for the most part, from ludicrous to inane. But two things: he has the right to his opinion, and the first amendment right to state it. I don't know how we've come to the point where, if any identifiable group takes offense to something, that means it should either be censored or apologized for. If you're offended by what Scott writes, so what? Your objection is not reason not to state your opinion.

There's a reason why the founders put freedom of speech as the first protection they guaranteed the government would not abridge. The free exchange of ideas is what allows us to weigh and consider other points of view. It does not give us the right to censor those who disagree with us.

As John Stuart Mill wrote in "Liberty" (1859), "The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error."

Scott, continue to challenge us with your opinions, wacky as some of them may be. And tell the LRC folks to go pound sand.
+158 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 22, 2011
Can I have your daughters email so I can send her lewd photos of my penis?
I have an unfulfilled urge that needs to be taken care of.
Jun 22, 2011

How do you know it is wrong?
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Jun 22, 2011
I am on Scott's side on this, but WTH is he doing on a petition against him,harassing the morons who signed it trying to get his comics taken out of the papers?http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-scott-adams-that-raping-a-woman-is-not-a-natural-instinct?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=share_petition
Come on Scott!
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Jun 21, 2011
@belsteve I read you comment that "Over the last few months, he has posted a number of blogs describing how easily witch-hunts and smear campaigns take place over the internet through mis-quoting and quoting out of context. This is merely the latest of his experiments, which quite clearly prove his hypothesis as correct.
I wouldn't say the people posting counter-blogs are necessarily stupid, despite the quality of their posts; merely that they find the temptation of a fix of self-righteous indignation too much to resist."
Wow,hit the nail on the head.
The reaction Scott reminds me of the near lynch mob like activity of the citizens of Vancouver in outing,shaming,and threatening thhe young men even who just sat on the sidelines and cheered. It's no coincidence that the Van City riots reaction also had numerous anti-male comments, with one poster going as far as saying that men cause all the problems in our society.
Yet in Egypt or Yemen,the young men who had the balls to stand up are applauded as heroes despite breaking stuff and fighting with the police.Personally, Im afraid of the coming matriarchy as women are much more accepting of autocrats-look at the first Prez elected by women in this county-Warren Harding-one of the worst presidents in US history. Also look at how women refuse to marry below their status,class,and employment- while men tend to cross class boundaries in search of mates...
Jun 21, 2011
You're spitting in the face of me and other women. After all in your analogy with the lion and zebra, if a man is placed next to a woman how can you blame either if he abuses or rapes her? After all poor men are trapped in society's constraints with the horror of marriage.
I am seeking a good man who can give me real love , so i got a username Andromeda2002 on--seekcougar.com--.it is the first and best club for y'ounger women and old'er men, or older women and y'ounger men,to int'eract with each other. Maybe you wanna ch'eck 'it out or tell your friends!
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Jun 21, 2011
@ansilatoms great posts.It appears many female netizen wish to ignore reality.
I remember when the NYTs ran an article about women & rape fantasies it causes a HUGE rukkus on net. People,and especially women have a hard time facing reality,which is weird because it is common for women to have such fantasies-so when they are screaming at anyone who's trying to examine this issue,they also know it's true-very strange.
Men at least are honest about WANTING something from the opposite gender,rather then coating themselves in self righteousness. Which is why a male teacher who father a child with a student would likely lose his head if society had it's way while the female teacher who fathered 2 children with a black school kid has her behavior explained away by psychology.
Jun 21, 2011
Okay, so let's forget what Scott did or didn't say, being as you seem intent on taking up a new discussion entirely, it sounds like you are saying that "power, manipulation, hatred, a desire to harm and demean another" are not natural human traits, but rather that they result from a mentally ill twisted distorted psyche. Seriously, have you ever read any history, picked up a paper, looked at prison stats, or otherwise observed the World, past and present? Okay, I won't argue that such behavior is as you said it is. Does that make it not natural? Maybe you're equating "natural" with good, or enlightened. It's not. Natural just means "as it occurs in nature". I've argued for ages that mankind is not as elevated as people seem to want to think. Overall, we're still pretty primitive. This points out even more that terms need to be defined before engaging in arguments. For the record, I do not believe "natural" means, good, right, necessary, or even desirable. It just means as things tend in nature. The evidence shows that if nothing else, men are naturally at war. Just look at how adversarial this discussion has gotten. So much of what you say I do agree with. Rape is all about control, dominance, power, and abuse. Not a lick of actual human sexuality in it. Yeah, in deference to that guy earlier, there are SOME...SOME women who fantasize about rape, but it's fantasy...and is fully under their control, has no reality to it, and is more just a way to release small inhibitions in their own psyches...and involves a fantasy partner who is non-threatening, caring, and way more appealing than any stranger. Really, the term "rape" shouldn't even be attached to those fantasies. Rape is beating, torturing, killing, and mental abuse. Nothing remotely appealing about that.
That's the thing, though. Cruelty and overall meanness and aggression DO seem to be far more prevalent than we'd like to admit. Does that mean that there's a huge population of mentally ill, twisted, distorted psyches? Maybe. It's there though, and no amount of denial will make that not so.
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Jun 21, 2011
Here we go again, for the second time my post which was critical of and disagreed with Scott Adams was deleted.

What the heck...I'll post it again...let's see how long it stays up this time:

Oh, boo freakin hoo...come on Scott Adams, women's bad behavior could be argued to be natural instinct too. I mean, maybe it's natural instinct for women to want to screw around and then trick men into raising and financially supporting other men's kids...but every day on the Maury Povich show, the women that try to pull that get busted and then shamed for society's entertainment. Oh, cry me a river...so men don't get everything they want out of sex and romance...well news flash...NEITHER DO WOMEN. In case you haven't noticed, women don't tend to get unconditional love, commitment, and devotion from ridiculously handsome and sensitive millionaires on a daily basis (while enjoying the pool boy and the UPS guy on the side as well no less). The key difference between men and women in this regard is that women, on average, tend to whine way less than men about society not catering to their every romantic and sexual whim. More women than men seem to have a grip on the fact that they need to compromise in order to have a successful romantic/sexual relationship and that society won't, and in fact shouldn't, cater to their every whim and desire here. OK, to be fair, lots of men clearly also have a grip on this...but unfortunately, there is a sizeable minority of Scott Adams type whiners out there who tend to make men as a group look bad.
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