This blog has a comment ranking system. Let's have some fun with it by having our own presidential debate. Pick a side, either Obama or McCain, and leave a comment explaining why your pick would be the best president.

Then be sure to vote for the best other comments that aren't your own. Let's see which arguments float to the top.

You are not required to be brief, but my guess is that people will vote you down if you can't make your case in a paragraph or two.

The challenge is to support your argument. For example, saying one candidate will vote for some particular treaty is just a fact, not an argument, unless you can include a link to an article saying most experts disagree with the treaty.


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Jun 21, 2008
Mc... Cain cause he is closer to Abel.

Besides I believe my grandfather is more tolerant and gives me more freedom than my brother can ever do...
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Jun 11, 2008
I'm voting for Ron Paul even if I have to write his name in.
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Jun 10, 2008
If I were American I would vote for Obama, why?, Europe loves Obama very very much!.
Jun 9, 2008
An intelligent person would attempt to gather facts about the candidates, and to judge their character, instead of using blind hate - or blind loyalty - minus any thinking. If you don't love following politics, at least try to assess character.

Character: They both speak in a rather level, soft-spoken manner. I don't hear the kind of intentionally highly emotional language, designed to whip up emotion (say, for going to war against a country other than the one with an Al Quaida leader bombing us) that Bush uses. This is a plus for both.

Policies: McCain is for staying in Iraq; Obama is for getting out immediately. While I am not an expert on how disastrous it would be to pull out immediately, getting out is a plus to me. Not going in at all would have been a bigger plus. This influences me against anyone that might be a Bush "crony" with the same predictable actions. Obama 1, McCain -1.5.

I am so disappointed that Clinton lost that I considered voting for McCain: plus for McCain here. McCain 1, Obama -1.

McCain is less radical right, more moderate Republican: in his favor. McCain 1, Obama 1.5 (Obviously he is not radical right, so he gets a count). I need to research it further, but I believe McCain is anti-choice: McCain -4. I believe Obama is pro-choice: Obama 4.

I have seriously considered voting for McCain and would continue to consider it if he turned out to be pro-choice; but separation of church and state, and invasion of privacy, are extremely serious issues, and ones that affect us here, in this country, right now, all the time, war or no war.

I challenge the people who pan this to examine their motives: are they truly assessing the quality of this argument, or are they simply expressing their hatred of my issues, specifically pro-choice?

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Jun 9, 2008
Prediction: McCain will spend the next five months having feet extracted from his mouth. Obama will spend the next five months running from comments made by his supporters and old "friends."
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Jun 9, 2008
Back in 2000 when McCain was running against Bush I thought that McCain was a person whom I could get behind. He seemed level headed, intelligent, and his policies made a lot of sense. I have always considered myself a democrat, but I would have voted for McCain in 2000 against Gore.

This time around McCain seems to be pandering to the republican base to get the nomination. I realize this is a necessity of campaigning, but this is a much different campaign than he was running in 2000. It's as if he is simply following Bush's game plan to get elected.

Now, I don't expect a president to be all-knowing, but I do expect them to know a lot. At least as much as I do. And ever since McCain had his AIDS gaffe http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/3/17/103318/764 , I find it impossible to vote for him. It's not that I'm not voting for him because he doesn't know that AIDS can be prevented by using a condom, but that is merely an example of ignorance on an issue that everybody should know.
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Jun 9, 2008
Eight years of republican lies, incompetence, torture and criminal behaviour . And some folks want four more. Un-frackin-believable!
Jun 9, 2008
Nothing to do with todays post, but important.
Our local newpaper, the Orange County Register is apparently getting rid of Pearls Before Swine (and Get Fuzzy).


Apparently, either people love it or hate it. And too many hate it.
I personally have mixed reactions, still..............
No word on Dilbert.

Jun 9, 2008
McCain wins on Life, Guns, Taxes, Security, and Experience. Obama wins on Looks. Don't we all agree it is against the law to hire someone based on Looks?
Jun 9, 2008
With Obama in contention, America is going back to be a dreamy land... Wake us up when you are back...
Jun 9, 2008
More so NOT McCain rather than Obama, because the Republicans need to be punished for the last 8 years. True it's not fair to hold McCain accountable for Bush, but he's the one who choose not to make a harder break from Bush. This way the politicians, and their parties, are held at least somewhat accountable for previous actions.
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Jun 9, 2008
Obama, There is a significantly reduced chance that we will get 4 more years of the same.
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Jun 9, 2008
Denny Crane.

Mad Cow for president - of wait is that not the current situation???
Jun 9, 2008

Rationale: He's not Bush. Of course, McCain isn't Bush either. In fact, he has a very respectable record of independence. Sadly, however, in order to get the Republican nomination, it appears that he found it necessary to become Bush-like in many of his policy stances. Specifically, his support for the permanency of the ill-advised Bush tax cuts (they actually weren't so ill advised initially -- the problem was that, instead of making them temporary -- in order to get out of a recession -- Bush wanted to make them permanent). Further, the foreign policy fiascos that Bush has gotten us into. How long will it take to repair the extraordinary harm to the reputation of the United States in the eyes of the rest of the world? Will it ever happen? Despite McCain's record of independence, I'm scared that he might be Bush-like as a president. Therefore, it seems reasonable to vote for Obama -- the un-Bush.

Eric E. Haas
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Jun 9, 2008
There is a bug, It appears you can vote for your own comment?
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Jun 9, 2008
I think I like Hillary because she is a flexible wife for the Bill kind of husband. She did not quit on him. Coz Obama beat Hillary, I will support for McCain. I think McCain should win because Obama beat Hillary.
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Jun 8, 2008
I am voting for McCain because he is an albino.
Jun 8, 2008
Voting Libertarian, again. They are the only ones who keep pointing out that we are a constitutional republic and that the Constitution is the law of the land and the federal government needs to be bound by it.

That being said, I recognize that barring some radical awakening or major collective gaff on their part, one of these two guys is going to be selected as the chief executive. And you can expect that the government will get bigger and our liberties will get smaller; personal liberty if it is McCain, and economic liberty if it is Obama. Probably both.

If I have to hope for the lesser of the two, I would hope it would be Obama. But here is why;

1) Power: I expect that Obama will be the weaker president because he has already alienated the lobbyist and special interest by vilifying them when he did not need them. The Founding Fathers designed our system with a much weaker executive branch for good reason, less chance of corrupted power concentrating there.

2) Competition: Obama will face an opposition party in the congress (albeit fewer that I would like). Republicans in Congress will be there to challenge the socialist ideas of the Democrats (or at least the costs). I think McCain would bully the Republicans into silence (with the help of the media) as works with his partners, the major liberals as he has done in the past.

3) Race: The election of Obama will finally allow whites to point out that racism in whites is the reason for all the ills in society. It may elevate the racism in blacks as they line up for more special treatment and drown out any legitimate criticism of Obama's policies as racist.

4) Disillusionment: I believe that things (economy, foreign policy, corruption, etc) have to get worst before the American people will give up on the idea that big government and the a messiah can deliver them from responsibility for their own situation.

America was much better when we prided ourselves on independence and self-reliance. The rest of the world respected that and the better motivated among them come here to take advantage of the Land of Opportunity.
Jun 8, 2008
for those who feel that escaping iraq would be better economically, consider this:

almost exactly 50 years ago, suicide bombers were used effectively for the first time in the algerian war against the french. france was on the brink of natinal collapse, with a stangnant economy and a massive war burden... sound familiar?

charles de gaulle was installed in power through extra-legal means. when he became the president, all the major enemy leaders were imprisoned in paris. the foreign legion was turning the tide and the victory looked possible within a decade. de gaulle decided war was not the answer and decided to negotiate. the algerians got independance, and promptly cut off oil supplies to france, and killed/tortured all algerians who had supported the french. the violence and unrest has continued in one form or another up to the present.

meanwhile, france's economy flourished, albeit with no oil reserves whatsoever.

does this appeal to you? if so, vote obama.

i do not wish to impose my opinion; to me it seems very harsh, but i am certain that this course of action could be justified as being for the greater good.

also, i would like to propose that contributions to this board should be more substantial than facile and glib remarks about the shortcomings of the democratic process. no force restricts emigration to freedom-loving countries such as, say, venezuela.
Jun 8, 2008
Obama is a great orator but does not really have any substance to back up his ideas, while McCain is the real deal with tons of experience and understands the issues. Obama is empty talk, telling us what he thinks we want to hear in order to get elected. His real motives are suspect and I'm guessing that his previous affiliation with his racist church is more likely his true color.

Not only does Obama lack the experience but he also is not that intelligent. Hey, neither was Geroge Bush and we suffered for it. Vote for the man, not the party. McCain has the brains and the experience to lead our country, and also is a great example as a leader with integrity. Obama is a pure politician who is jejune in many areas. Take a look at all these "Obamisms". Electing him president would be almost like electing George W. all over again.


* “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” --Barack Obama (The actual death toll: 12.)

* “Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go.”--Barack Obama

* (In front of a roaring Sioux Falls, S.D., audience): “Thank you, Sioux City. ... I said it wrong. I’ve been in Iowa for too long. I’m sorry.”--Barack Obama

* (On why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky) “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” --Barack Obama (On what map is Arkansas closer to Kentucky than Illinois?)

* “There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”--Barack Obama (Obama was born in 1961. The Selma march took place in 1965).

* “We only have a certain number of them, (translators), and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.”--Barack Obama (Iraqis speak Arabic or Kurdish. The Afghanis speak !$%*!$% Farsi, or other non-Arabic languages).

* (On the decades-old, multibillion-dollar massive Hanford nuclear-waste cleanup): “Here’s something that you will rarely hear from a politician, and that is that I’m not familiar with the Hanford, uuuuhh, site, so I don’t know exactly what’s going on there. (Applause.) Now, having said that, I promise you I’ll learn about it by the time I leave here on the ride back to the airport.” (He’s voted on at least one defense-authorization bill that addressed the “costs, schedules, and technical issues” dealing with the nation’s most contaminated nuclear-waste site.)

* The Chicago Tribune reported this little-noticed nugget about a fake autobiographical detail in Obama’s Dreams from My Father: “Then, there’s the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don’t exist, say the magazine’s own historians.”

* (Iran doesn’t) “pose a serious threat to us” — cluelessly arguing that “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm — and then promptly flip-flopped the next day, claiming, “I’ve made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.”

* “I had an uncle who was one of the — who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps. And the story in our family is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months. Right, now, obviously, something had really affected him deeply. But at that time, there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” --Barack Obama (It was the Soviets who liberated Auschwitz, not the Americans. It turns out that Obama's uncle was part of an American regiment that liberated the Buchenwald labor camp.)

* “On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes—and I see many of them in the audience here today—our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.” —Barack Obama ("I see dead people").

Barack Obama — promoted by the Left and the media as an all-knowing, articulate, transcendent Messiah — is a walking, talking gaffe machine. How many more passes does he get? How many more can we afford?
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