This blog has a comment ranking system. Let's have some fun with it by having our own presidential debate. Pick a side, either Obama or McCain, and leave a comment explaining why your pick would be the best president.

Then be sure to vote for the best other comments that aren't your own. Let's see which arguments float to the top.

You are not required to be brief, but my guess is that people will vote you down if you can't make your case in a paragraph or two.

The challenge is to support your argument. For example, saying one candidate will vote for some particular treaty is just a fact, not an argument, unless you can include a link to an article saying most experts disagree with the treaty.


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-22 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
McCain for president because he is more similar to Ron Paul than is Obama.
Jun 6, 2008
If I were going to vote, I'd vote for Obama. He has real charisma and probably can energize the country the way JFK did when he was elected. (I didn't vote for JFK and wouldn't have had I been able to, but he did good things for the nation during his first 100 days). OTOH, I don't like Obama's empty rhetoric of change. He won't be able to change anything but his socks and underwear, like all other presidents.

McCain would be almost acceptable if he weren't a Republican. He's anti-choice (he's either that kind of ideological dinosaur or he has to say he is -- the way that slime-ball Mitt Romney did to try to win the hearts and pea-brains of the religious right) and willing to offer America's soldiers' lives to the gods of the War on Terror for another 100 years. I don't believe in human sacrifice, but he seems to.

When I first saw and heard Obama on TV, I knew that he would be a contender, but I didn't think it would be until after Hillary Clinton had served at least four years in the White House.

My only real argument is that almost any Democrat is going to be better than having almost any Republican in the White House for the next four to eight years. I would prefer that American politics changed itself into something other than a camp of bought-off legislators, who do the bidding of big business and their lobbyists, plus a cult of personality looking for someone with nothing but a personality to offer the mindless dolts who continue to believe that the USA is still the land of the free when it's really mortgaged to the PRC and the Saudis and the Christian Coalition.

Obama has captured the imagination of the world, and that alone is worth enough to make a vote for him a good thing. McCain is certainly a respectable politician (yeah, I know it's an oxymoron), but he's not Colin Powell, the only Republican I would consider voting for (but only if he ran as an independent and not as the lead GOP pachyderm).

Joe Biden for Veep!
-15 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
My demographic seems to side with Obama. He has convinced me to like him too. I don't necessarily agree with his social issues.

I really don't like McCain. Old people tend to smell funny. I don't think that is why he smells, though.

Unless the 2 party system crumbles within 5 months and unless Scott Adams-Bill Gates is on the Economist ticket, I will not let my vote be cancelled out by some bleeding heart liberal or a Limbaugh enthusiast.
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Jun 6, 2008
I don't love either candidate and don't yet know enough about each. I have yet to hear the details on their real thoughts on the Iraq, Afganistan, Iran (and the entire mid-east), our soaring national debt, the environment, immigration, etc. But here is what I think I know:

- McCain is more qualified from an experience perspective. Having actually been in the military makes a big difference in his ability to make decisions involving armed conflict. I believe a bit more in his ability to stabilize our current situation than Obama. Although if he was really that good shouldn't he have gotten this far before he was in his 70's?
- Obama is more charismatic and energetic but also much less experienced; Also not sure of his track record. I think Obama has a better chance of inspiring the kind of change the country needs.

At the end of the day, the way our political system is set up you are not really voting for an individual for president, you are voting for the platforms and agenda of one of the political parties (unless one of the candidates can transcend partisan politics). For that reason I will be voting for Obama. After eight years in control, I struggle to find anything positive that the Republican party leaves us with and see no reason why they deserve another four years.
Jun 6, 2008
He taught constitutional law, therefore it's highly probable he's read the constitution and thinks its important. This would represent a real change for the better.
Jun 6, 2008
Obama, or more precisely, not Mc Cain.

POTUS is a not particularly powerful position. The can disapprove legislation (conditionally, vetoes can be overridden), and have limited powers to wage war (perhaps not as limited as originally thought). But, their real power is in two areas: using the attention given to the Presidency to argue for a position (T. Roosevel't "bully pulpit") and appointing executive branch leaders and judges.

Obama is going to be much better to listen to as a speaker. You may disagree with his content, but his delivery and rhetoric is better than Mc Cain.

And for appointments, McCain of 2009 (rather than McCain of 2000) is much more likely to pay off political debts with appointments, rather than choose the best person. Obama has far fewer debts to pay off. But more importantly, the next President is going to have at least one and perhaps up to 3 Supreme Court appointments. Not to mention all of the lower count appointments. Regardless of your political leanings, I think it can be agreed that the judicial system works best when both sides are represented somewhat equally. It is the debate and tension between positions that makes for the best law. We already have a high court that is biased about 6-3 to a conservative position. Moving it more to the right serves no one, and you can bet that McCain will replace Stevens (at a minimum and perhaps Kennedy and Souter ) with judges that are even more conservative.
Jun 6, 2008
Bob Barr. He doesn't support ethanol subsidies, and therefore isn't automatically disqualified. If you believe in the New Barr, he's better than either major-party candidate on drug reform. He favors pulling out of Iraq ASAP, and would withdraw troops from many of the other 128 or so countries that the US currently occupies. These three issues by themselves make him easily the best candidate on the most critical economic matters that fall within the President's sphere of influence. In contrast, his potentially disastrous "fair tax" almost certainly would fail to gain any traction.

Otherwise, vote for McCain. He'd be unpopular and stuck with a hostile legislature. That's probably the best-case scenario this cycle.
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Jun 6, 2008
People who still think of McCain as a maverick and a moderate need to start paying closer attention to his voting record and his recent policy positions. It's true that he's less anti-environment than nearly all of his Republican colleagues in the Senate, but that's still only good enough to get a lifetime score of 26 (out of 100) from the League of Conservation Voters. Barack Obama's score? 96.

McCain has also recently said (through surrogates, for the most part) that during times of war the president can ignore laws protecting American citizens from having their government spy on them, and that telecom companies who assisted the government in its lawbreaking have nothing to apologize for. The idea that the president can simply ignore the constitution whenever he sees fit doesn't strike me as moderate at all.

And on Iraq, what evidence do people have that he would be more effective in managing the war than would Obama? This is the same McCain who strolled through a Baghdad marketplace wearing a bulletproof vest and surrounded by troops and helicopters and then declared that his visit proved that one could "walk freely" through parts of Baghdad. Does that sound like he has a realistic grasp of what's actually happening on the ground?

No, McCain will not be a Bush clone, but if you agree that environmental policy, overreaching executive authority, and management of the Iraq war are areas where we need drastic changes, not just minor adjustments, then McCain is anything but moderate.
-21 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
NOT McCain because:
"Free trade" is not free so promoting free trade is imperialist (I am not an imperialist)
He is NOT a maverick, he's mcbush/mcsame -- and how's that working for you?
He's a liar

The worst part of McCain is that he won't acknowledge the shrinking relevance of the US in world politics -- our own damned fault, part of Bush's legacy, and he's McBushMcSame...

Is Obama everything he says? No idea. I voted against Bush twice before, I'll vote against him the third time too.
Jun 6, 2008
Barack Obama

In my opinion, most politicians are the same, and despite what candidates say, there is a limit to how much a president can do. Candidates make promises to do things they know the electorate wants to have happen. Once they are inaugurated, they do what they want and forget the little promises they made during the campaign. This is not completely their fault; they are hand-cuffed by the system in some ways. I feel that almost everyone we had to chose from at the beginning of the primaries, would have taken office and done exactly what all other presidents have done; do as little as possible so that you do not offend anyone but do enough so that you can justify keeping your job in 4 years.

Having said all that, when I look at Obama and listen to him speak, I have a glimmer of hope that he can be different. I have a feeling that he might change things for the better and make the US great again. I know he can't do everything he promises, but if he can do some of it, it will be much better than 4 more years with John McCain.
Jun 6, 2008
McCain because he has better hair and I think he's taller. Plus if Obama gets in an Obama-Devi-I mean, Hillary, ticket, He's associated himself with the devil. We don't want that, do we?

I will conclude with Latin to make myself appear smarter. Sua Magna sic gloria mundi Obama transit amabo te HIllary mala allia Satan Semper saepe McCain.
Jun 6, 2008
None of the above.

Why not Obama? He fashions his public persona to be the political outsider, new in town and here to clean things up. But he was selected out of nowhere by the Dems in 2004 to give the keynote address at the national convention, and he's a protege of Zbigniew Brzezinski (who is one of 'them', co-founder of the Trilateral Commission, Bildenberg Group regular, etc). Obama is so much of an insider politician that it's not even funny, but we, the people, have fallen for his manufactured knight-in-shining-armor schtick.

Why not McCain? I like McCain, but he's too old, and (age aside) not quite dynamic enough to be the President of the United States.
+4 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
i wish i could vote for Obama. He's young, charismatic, and i would love to be albe to point to him and tell my child (who is also of mixed racial heritage) that we as a country judge a person not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. i want to believe him when he says he's going to bring change to Washington, since power corrupts, especially whe it's inheritted (i hope we've gotten rid of both Bush and Clinton dynasties forever). however, he does not have much expertise in international releations, and his voting record in the senate shows that he's very partisan and not willing to cross party lines. i'm not sure how that's a change from the current system in washington. i'm not yet sure i want to drink the coolaid on obama.

i wish i could vote for mccain. he's got a good deal of experience on domestic and foreign affairs, he's a moderate, and he's willing to reach across the aisle and form compromises. However, he's old, and he has shown a surprising number of misstatements in the past (i tend to believe that they were actual misstatements due to confusion, rather than outright lies like sen. clinton). i'm just not sure that i want someone who is slowing down mentally in the white house. plus, he is going to have to pander to the far right of his party in order to get enough of them out to vote. this will negatively affect his chances to compromise if he were to win the election.

btw, if it matters, i'm a white male christian who is staunchly centrist/independant. i've voted for both republicans and democrats in the past, and i've been opposed to both republicans and democrats in the past. i wish there were more viable alternate political parties for which to vote (viable being the key word).
-9 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008

He can speak and think INTELLIGENTLY at the same time. Smart people should be elevated to power rather than trampoline jumpers.
-11 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
This is too easy. McCain. Because he is much more likely to die/have serious health issues in office.... affording America another chance to have someone OTHER than the current round of buffoons as President.

Jun 6, 2008

i think a lot of voters don’t take voting personally; for me it can be expressed as "who would i want to be paired with in a mugging attack late night at in a deserted parking lot?"

i imagine it would be something like this:

#1, barak obama
obama and i are heading to our cars after hanging out at a club. on our walk through the car lot; we are confronted by two individuals; i’m subsequently murdered because obama tries to argue and surreptitiously educate them to the fact that we are intelligent people and have snapped their pictures with our camera phones to give to the police;i.e. thats a stabbin! no points for obama.

#2, hillary clinton
after spitting venom at the attackers, hillary knifes one after crushing the other’s throat with her high-heeled shoe. one point for hillary.

#3, john mccain
while walking to our cars; i hear a shuffling behind me. i turn around to look but see nothing; when i resume my direction of travel again i see my friend john pushing something bulky behind a dumpster and then wiping his hands on his pants. we get in our cars and go home; 10 points for mccain.
-5 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008

I think it's too early to tell who is the best canditate.

I like John McCain, the Maverick, who is moderate and reaches across the party isle, but "supposedly" he's been catering to the ultra right wing of his party lately. The democrats are painting him as a caricature of the 2nd coming of George Bush by constantly saying "a vote for McCain is a vote for a 3rd term of George Bush Policies"., which is probably a stretch. But again it's too early to tell if he sticks with his moderate ways or panders to the neo-con base.

I hardly know what Barack Obama stands for other than "Change" in Washington politics. But isn't that what McCain promises too? And wasn't that what George Bush promised to do when he first got elected, and his terms have been the most polarizing. The Republicans have painted Obama as an ultra liberal who will tax you to death. I don't like that, but at this point, I don't know what the man stands for.

I'll have to wait until the actual Presidental debates to make my decision. However, the selection of the VP may make my decision very easy. For example, if John McCain picks Colin Powel, then I'll definitely be voting for McCain. If Barak Obama selects Hillary as his VP, then I'm definitely NOT voting for Barak Obama; I would be voting for John McCain in that case.

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Jun 6, 2008
*** John McCain for President ... A FREE TRADE Proponent ***

Unlike the Democrats, John McCain is a FIERCE free-trader. He genuinely believes that restricting trade and not embracing new agreements will harm the future of our economy.

Protectionism was a bad idea of the past and sadly the Democrats still hang onto this bad idea. Remember, even Bill Clinton understood the benefits of free trade (i.e., NAFTA).

I find it humorous that McCain is branded by others (and himself!) as not being strong in economics... Yet with this important and critical point of differentiation, he has proven himself to be a better economic thinker than Obama.
-22 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
I'll pick Obama.

If he gets in then it will be a new historic event for this country. With McCain, we will just be prolonging the historic event that started 7 years ago.
-42 Rank Up Rank Down
Jun 6, 2008
Sweet, first one.
Now, let me pull up Wikipedia to explain why I would vote for McCain...
Hurricane Patsy...That has a funny name.
Ooo. Cool. They got a new McCain picture. The last one sucked.
Wow. His middle name is Sidney? If I were him, I would go by Sid.
Scratch that. I'm not going to read the rest of the article. It's kinda politically. And boring. And boring is political. So I guess I'll have to go on what I already know.
Well, Sid is a good president because the whole Rev. Wright. thing. I made some comics on Jerry, but I can't put them on. I think. Lemme see.
Yep. Can't do that.
My third choice wasn't McCain at second. It was Mitt Romney. My second choice for him was because John McCain was a...let me see if this is in the dictionary...nope. I guess I'll have to invent a new word: because John McCain was a nincimpit. He was a shwadlle-datlle. Qungsleton. Doodle-foodle. Woo-woo-noodle. Foo-moo-moo. Al Gore. Mitt Romney was way more conservative than John McCain. The only way I can see Johnny being conservative is if that little lump on his cheek goes wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay down. John McCain also has a humor side. I have never, even once, seen Obama even laugh. But I'm pretty sure it's only for a good reason. Maybe he had one of those drunk trucker laughs.
If you noticed, I said John McCain was my third choice and my second choice was Romney, then who is the next choice? Ronald McDonald.
Ronald McDonald is a good President because he had red hair. And a handgun. And knows CPR. He also has Mc at the front of the end of his name.
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