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Sep 16, 2014
Free will? Where was my free will when I was baptised at 3 weeks of age? Where is free will when Jewish and Muslim male children are sexually mutilated as infants? What remains of your child's free will when they are spoon-fed with dogma from the day they start to learn to read?
Give me the boy and I will give you the man is something a cleric said. Talk about being cynical!
Feel free to believe in your invisible man if you want to but I am having non of it, not any more.
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Sep 16, 2012
Oh God... Americans talking about religion...
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Jun 1, 2011
I am so envious on the people that commented until now. You obviously don't live in places where people regularly beat their children make them go to churches. Or where apostasy is not sanctioned with death penalty or a trip to the madhouse. Or where you don't get kill if you don't pray to the right god.
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Dec 7, 2010
Peregrine: I wish it were that simple, but when you tell someone that not believing in a religion results in suffering and death, and if that person believes it, then it goes beyond a simple matter of choice. Not that many folks don't wake up, grow out of it or whatever, but religion is still an effort to control how others think and act.
Dec 7, 2010
Mind control is always about "free will". Otherwise it would just be control. We are of course just talking about other people's religion...not yours.

By the way, I think "storminmormon" was trying to be sarcastic. That's the trouble with sarcasm, sometimes it's hard to tell if the person is being serious or not.
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