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User Name: normbear Feb 9, 2009
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Claiming random thought patterns probably wouldn't have worked for Dilbert, either, nor would it have revived his illusion of free will. He could also have claimed that some butterfly flapping its wings in Brazil caused the project to fail, but that would probably have gotten the same response from the boss. Trying to find the root cause of anything is a hopeless task. What the boss really wants is the proximate cause; the name of the person he can yell at or fire. The humor, for me, is that Dilbert tries to divert the boss's search for a proximate cause by giving him the ultimate cause.
 
 
User Name: psionl0 Feb 8, 2009
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Those "wave functions" are probability equations. That leaves room for a lot of non-deterministic factors. Dilbert could argue that his thought patterns are random but that argument has never worked for me! ;-)
 
 
User Name: normbear Feb 7, 2009
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I totally agree that quantum physics is the way to go if you're dealing with phenomena on that level, but if we turn Dilbert into a quantum physicist, it doesn't alter his situation. His answer to why the project failed might then become, "I'm a quantum physicist, so I'd have to say that the problem began with the origin of the universe, and is the result of incalculable numbers of quantum events occurring since then." If Dilbert's thought processes are the result of quantum events in his brain, he still doesn't have conscious control of collapsing all the wave functions that result in his decisions and behavior. In either case "free will" is logically incoherent.
 
 
User Name: psionl0 Feb 6, 2009
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Normbear, it is true that one doesn't need to use quantum physics to deal with the question of the missing apartment (unless one likes doing massive amounts of calculations with infinitesimal numbers) when assuming determinism will almost certainly give the same answer. Engineers (and statisticians) make assumptions like these all the time - when convenient - in order to get the job done.

However, assumption is not proof (not even when it leads to the correct answer) - it is a logical flaw known as "begging the question" (a form of circular argument).

If the universe originated as a teensy-weensy singularity then quantum physics rather than determinism is almost certainly the way to go.
 
 
User Name: normbear Feb 6, 2009
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There is a point at which quantum uncertainty settles into macro level determinism. If I come home and find that my apartment building is no longer there, I can be fairly sure that its relocation is the result of the deterministic laws of physics rather than quantum effects. The predictability of our human level world relies on determinism.
 
 
 

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