@ibi828, uh, if you check it out, the housing market collapsed which made everything else collapse because the loans were not secure and due totally to legislators of the ilk of Barney Frank telling the banks to loan loan loan regardless of whether people are a good risk because selling houses spurs building houses and putting people to work. Barney Frank told the financial institutions that in order for them to remain in the good graces of our socialistic-to-be government they had better put money in the hands of lower echelon people or he would crush them (therefore re-elected ad infinitum). As for the war in Iraq, W had congress's approval after the likes of Kerry finally flipflop and rested. But now that Obama is in office we will see just how well the extremist terrorist will calm down and lay down their weapons and negotiate. yeah right! Obama got the peace prize just like Arafat did. Larry isn't the only croc. The peace prize is a crock too. Geeeez. Wanna good read? "Homo Politicus" is a great read. But I still like you a lot ibi828. Friends can debate.
@rigid The fault of W was to make it easy for the salespeople to lie for example bernard madoff with his Ponzi scheme and selling sub-prime mortgages to people who can't afford them, by making the laws way to easy. and of course starting a total useless war in Iraq witch makes the USA a bought pet of Communist China!
@rigid true, but sales managers wanna sell sell sell! whether the product is in good shape or ready for the scrapheap they wanna sell so if it's necessary to lie to the customer about their competitor they'll do it!
even the economic crisis came because sales persons lied about their products.